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Post by CMTMedic on Jun 30, 2004 15:13:10 GMT -5
Out of curiousity, does every ambulance have a map book? I have been hearing many requests for directions from the county to the scene. There is a time and a place for specific directions but if the road given is correct and there is a specific address (house number, box number) why dont people look at a map. It also seems that the county has been asked to give multiple sets of directions to responders (everyone going to the scene from different directions). If a responder is commonly going to the scene they should be provided a map. It is in the patient's best interest that responders know where they are responding to.
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Post by canton1 on Jul 1, 2004 5:38:21 GMT -5
Read a MAP Are you crazy Not require county to tell ya 5 times RIGHT
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Post by Omega on Jul 2, 2004 1:55:39 GMT -5
The stars, moon, and cards are telling me that there may be some hostility in Canton 1's responce. I must agree though with his statements. Analytical thinking does not come easily for many. Wait! Did I say that? It seems that most, who should have maps, or even do have maps, do not take the time to pull them out and find where they are going.
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Post by canton1 on Jul 2, 2004 2:12:24 GMT -5
No hostility-- Just facts
as the almighty Tim would say
"SHow the love" ;D
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Post by LT106 on Jul 3, 2004 11:48:54 GMT -5
The County where I dispatch the EMS units dont know their A** from a whole in a ground when it is responding to a call. there are some that expect directions to the call from their garage. Absolutely ridiculous if you ask me. These medics and EMTs, some of them work for multiple EMS services in the County. They should know the entire county like the back of their hands and they dont. I don know what they do when they are on shift but, its definately not learning their 1st due area. Liek the original question said How hard is it to look at a map?
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Post by Chris VanDruff on Jul 3, 2004 19:12:41 GMT -5
It gets back to preplanning your coverage are I think. I know myself if I have extra time to get somewhere that im driving to and no call is involved I will take a back road just to see where it goes or is there maybe a faster route that I dont know about. There is a serious lack of preplanning all around us. The other thing is that county makes it way to easy for us to just go the easy route and say hey where is this place. unfortunately if we are on here discussing this we are probably once again not the ones that should be talked too. Not saying Im perfect I may ask for a direction but Guarenteed if I ask one time the next day or the next month when we have a call on the same road I will know where it is, Thank you.
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Post by 2Truck on Jul 26, 2004 20:26:11 GMT -5
I couldn't imagine why there would be any problems trying to figure out where you are going. First of all there is no true street address for most of the area throughout the county (hopefully this will be changed soon if I understand correctly), second of all people use landmarks that some may not be familiar with (example: beside the old barn that burned x number of years ago). Another thing that may throw someone off is the residence name. I'm not sure but isn't it against HIPPA to give a residence name and their emergency need over the radio? Hopefully when the new addressing system takes affect (much to the dismay of the people that it will be helping : most of the problems with directions will be solved.
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Post by flash97 on Jul 26, 2004 21:15:44 GMT -5
I was a little hesitant to reply to this for fear of being crucified, but here goes, many times more oftn than not hter directions given out by the com center are quite good, but you must first calm down and LISTEN to the directions given before running at the drop of the tones and asking questions as you drive in the direction you hope is the right one. Yes the resources at the fingertips of the com center are limited to info given to them, but I have listened many times as FF have gone the wrong way and only because they haven't took time to listen .
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Post by ems1 on Jul 27, 2004 15:40:21 GMT -5
When the county is finished with the re-addressing of the county, Inhope to get a new, complete map book from the county 911 center and furnish copies to all EMS services in the region. They have a map book now that I am sure they would furnish a copy of to any service that needs one. Just ask them. Thanks.....
R. Brent Meadows Executive Director BSEMS Council 570-882-4604
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Post by 911wacker on Jul 27, 2004 16:15:28 GMT -5
Brent, Thats just great but, who's going to teach everyone to read those maps?? ;D ;D You know that just as soon if you make something idiot proof they just make a better idiot!
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Post by Everyonesshadows on Nov 3, 2004 22:41:26 GMT -5
A map book is a great thing. Let’s face it no one expects us all to know every road in our coverage area but we should at least know how to open the book and find the road we are going to. It’s not hard. A lot of ambulance companies as soon as they call responding ask for directions. Look at the map book first and if you can’t find it then ask for directions I am sure the dispatchers would appreciate it. Let’s face it not every road is marked properly. Most of the time we can find the white State Route (SR) sign that are at the intersections of roads and it doesn’t take a lot to figure out if it is the road you need to take but people would rather ask for directions then look in a book.
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Post by cledus on Nov 4, 2004 1:16:02 GMT -5
I like the flare method, the first people on scene fire flares into the sky so the next in can find them. I think it could work or at least it would be fun.
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Post by 9Wacker1 on Feb 16, 2005 21:53:36 GMT -5
I thought I'd risk getting shot at and start this up again. Many of you mentioned the "idiot" factor in dealing with maps, but what about the "lazy" factor? Chris hinted at it (thank goodness County still answers our multiple requests for directions!), but isn't it true that we'd rather talk on the radio than look at a map? Of course, before we go too far, it's hard to look at a map while you're driving - alone - at night... Another part of the "lazy" factor is those of us who have really good drivers. Our primary driver knows almost everyone who does (and who used to) live in our coverage area. All I have to do is get to the garage. Half the time I don't know where we are ending up! Maybe we should get GPS units for all the rigs!! Whatta ya think?
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Post by TheFenceJumper1 on Feb 17, 2005 9:55:11 GMT -5
GPS would be great for every vehicle, although, as most members in my department would agree, I could still get lost in the boro of Canton. Plus, maps are a lot cheaper than GPS.
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Post by RAYFF2 on Feb 17, 2005 18:02:32 GMT -5
Doug you hit the nail on the head.. Map books are great as long as people would leave them in the trucks where they belong and not use them for whatever reason.. Brent its nice to know after readdressing is done that new ones are available.. Hey Canton 1 can we hook a dummy cord to them with a 1 foot piece of rope so they stay in the truck? GPS is good doug but how many people actually know how to use it..Its only as good as the operator just as the map books are for the ones what dont wanna dust them off and open up and read them. Its true some of the maps we have arent that ledgible but it will get you there.
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