luke
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Post by luke on Apr 13, 2006 23:38:29 GMT -5
I personally think that if you can not view your name on here then you should not be able to post comments
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Post by 911wacker on Apr 14, 2006 0:16:12 GMT -5
As long as the people who post on here keep it to topics and not make it personal I see no reason to not let them post. The management team has worked hard to overcome the problems that we have had in the past and rest assurred whether or not a name is on the profile, if they make it personel........[glow=red,2,300]They will be gone!![/glow]
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GVEMS30
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"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." - Albert Einstein
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Post by GVEMS30 on Apr 14, 2006 8:03:09 GMT -5
911WACKER, what do you think should happen to a Global Moderator who makes personal attacks against another member under an assumed ID?
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Post by blueeighty8 on Apr 14, 2006 10:39:25 GMT -5
As long as the mods can identify someone... It's pretty easy to tell when someone has a second ID for p*ssing people off. Look at their IP, and compare. That's what we do on the 67 county and individual county forums I put up. Or, if we are really having trouble with people doing that, we just ban the IP, and see who comes back.
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GVEMS30
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Post by GVEMS30 on Apr 14, 2006 11:00:31 GMT -5
My question is what if this is a moderator? A moderator creates a fake, unsigned ID, stirs up trouble then logs back in as the moderator and acts like a voice of calm and reason. I think it is a bit like an arsonist who goes out and sets a fire then puts on the bunkers and responds as a firefighter to put it out.
An additional curious thing that I noticed is how when I have tried to raise this very question in the past, my posts magically vanish. Very interesting indeed…..
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3unit2
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Post by 3unit2 on Apr 14, 2006 11:25:58 GMT -5
Well Now..... IT apears that the Admininstator and 1 Moderator deem it just fine for the "flamethrowers",the "firemedics" and other's like them to DEGRADE and Lower the Standards of this forum.. By allowing them to run Rampant and HIDE behind a Screen Name..
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Post by Medic13 on Apr 14, 2006 12:53:48 GMT -5
We can poke and prod, and the moderators can boot if they so choose... but it's a lost cause. Those who remain anonymous obviously have something to hide. Just like our late firemedic was, flamerthrower is probably a group moderator, fire chief, ems manager or supervisor, member of the EMS council, or someone whose position requires a higher level of maturity than he can offer. It's a shame, because although I certainly don't agree with everything he says, he has some good points that aren't gonna make any progress from an anonymous source on the internet.
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Post by FIREFIGHTER16 on Apr 14, 2006 15:17:08 GMT -5
I WILL HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE DR. ON THIS ONE, IT IS TRUELY A LOST CAUSE.
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Post by 911wacker on Apr 14, 2006 15:20:58 GMT -5
Well Now..... IT apears that the Admininstator and 1 Moderator deem it just fine for the "flamethrowers",the "firemedics" and other's like them to DEGRADE and Lower the Standards of this forum.. By allowing them to run Rampant and HIDE behind a Screen Name.. There have not been any personal attacks on this forum board in over a year. We (the management team) have made it clear that regardless of WHO it is, it will not be tolerated. So if any personal attacks happen, they will be dealt with swiftley. Everyone should continue to post and discuss as they have, if any problems arise...........[glow=red,2,300]It will be handled quickly!![/glow]
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GVEMS30
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Post by GVEMS30 on Apr 14, 2006 15:29:07 GMT -5
We can poke and prod, and the moderators can boot if they so choose... but it's a lost cause. Those who remain anonymous obviously have something to hide. Just like our late firemedic was, flamerthrower is probably a group moderator, fire chief, ems manager or supervisor, member of the EMS council, or someone whose position requires a higher level of maturity than he can offer. It's a shame, because although I certainly don't agree with everything he says, he has some good points that aren't gonna make any progress from an anonymous source on the internet. Bingo! My first post to this board resulted in my being personally attacked. I am here to contribute to the dialog, not to be some target of insults so someone can go on an ego trip. Now lets just say I have a question about Fire, EMS or Rescue. I don’t dare ask it here, I’ll be poked fun at. I can put up with it to a point, but tolerating this crap will not make it stop, and then others less tolerant get hurt. Serious issues are not dealt with on this board because of this. New members don’t join, existing members stop posting. The Bradford County Cage Match is alive and well, arsonist firefighters starting problems so they can change ID’s and rush in and save day. We are all supposed to be professionals, insulting and degrading our brothers and sisters is the single biggest problem I have seen with EMS in Bradford County. There is no place for it. As a group, we should. Boycott and or ignore troubling making members, the management of this board should delete the posts and the account. I saw two threads that I stated on this topic vanish overnight. Therefore, I doubt that this will ever happen.
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GVEMS30
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Post by GVEMS30 on Apr 14, 2006 15:35:50 GMT -5
Well Now..... IT apears that the Admininstator and 1 Moderator deem it just fine for the "flamethrowers",the "firemedics" and other's like them to DEGRADE and Lower the Standards of this forum.. By allowing them to run Rampant and HIDE behind a Screen Name.. There have not been any personal attacks on this forum board in over a year. We (the management team) have made it clear that regardless of WHO it is, it will not be tolerated. So if any personal attacks happen, they will be dealt with swiftley. Everyone should continue to post and discuss as they have, if any problems arise...........[glow=red,2,300]It will be handled quickly!![/glow] Good, but that doesn’t go far enough. Personal attacks are just the ugly tip of this iceberg. The standards of conduct are low and will not be able to recover unless attitudes change.
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Post by flamethrower on Apr 15, 2006 0:11:42 GMT -5
OK folks,
I have been quit for a few days to observe what will happen with this one. I also spent alot of time and did some research on this board to see how many profiles actually have a name with them. Of the 293 current profiles here, only about 1/3 of them have names. This figure also incudes many people who have posted many times prior and were never asked for their names or credentials. So why all of a sudden does this really make a difference?? Long story short, it doesn't mean a damn thing. Does a opinion really have to have a name with it to bare any value, NO. An opinion is just as valuable whether you know where it came from or not........and sometimes it has even more weight because of the fact that you don't know who or where it came from. [glow=red,2,300]Opinions should be weighed on there merit, not on who is giving it to you![/glow]
Anyway, I plan on being around here for a long time and sharing, learning with and from all of you. So lets just get over it and get back to the reason we are all here.
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Post by Robert Repasky on Apr 15, 2006 8:09:21 GMT -5
At least now we know you didn't pass grammar in grade school. Keep posting, we'll figure out who you are eventually.
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911Mom
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Post by 911Mom on Apr 15, 2006 8:21:13 GMT -5
I think that boards like this need a certain comfort level IE that you can post honest questions and expect answers that will help not hinder. Unfortunately we all do remember Firemedic and some of the cruel things he said. No there haven't been any personal attacks in a year, not since the evil twin of one of our members decided to go away. But those of us that remember who he was in real life can't help but wonder when this now "voice of reason" will decide to let the evil twin come out and play again. I can understand why some people use fictitious names because if they ask what some people may consider a "stupid" question, this may carry over into the field when the asker may have to deal with the answerer who trashed them on this board. We all have to remember, we did not come out of the uterus knowing everything about EMS and Fire. Final thought on this is that if a moderator is EVER found to be one of these cruel anonymous posters, they should IMMEDIATELY have their moderator status stripped from them and their true identity revealed!
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GVEMS30
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Post by GVEMS30 on Apr 15, 2006 15:47:48 GMT -5
I think that boards like this need a certain comfort level IE that you can post honest questions and expect answers that will help not hinder. Unfortunately we all do remember Firemedic and some of the cruel things he said. No there haven't been any personal attacks in a year, not since the evil twin of one of our members decided to go away. But those of us that remember who he was in real life can't help but wonder when this now "voice of reason" will decide to let the evil twin come out and play again. I can understand why some people use fictitious names because if they ask what some people may consider a "stupid" question, this may carry over into the field when the asker may have to deal with the answerer who trashed them on this board. We all have to remember, we did not come out of the uterus knowing everything about EMS and Fire. Final thought on this is that if a moderator is EVER found to be one of these cruel anonymous posters, they should IMMEDIATELY have their moderator status stripped from them and their true identity revealed! Well-stated, very well stated. This is the attitude we need to have. We all have something to teach and we all have something to learn. If there is to be a free and honest exchange of ideas and discussion of issues it must be free of the cruel and anonymous posters. This is regardless if the attacks are of a personal nature or just angry attempts at inciting a large group. It is childish and counter productive.
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