Flynn
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Post by Flynn on Sept 13, 2003 10:42:42 GMT -5
Are we falling behind in the times?
The valley area runs and LDH task force, whih IMHO is fantastic. Columbia and Luzurne counties run rescue and tanker task forces respectfully.
Wouldn't it be easier as an IC to call for an established tanker task force than piece meal a box assignment solely based on water delivery need?
Being part of the central Bradford area, we have a butt load of LDH sitting in our stations, what about another area LDH task force?
With the airport in our backyard, so to speak, what about a foam task force or rescue task force for mass casualty or specialized rescue needs?
This is only food for thought.
Tim
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Post by ntowanda1 on Sept 14, 2003 19:54:05 GMT -5
Tim just to let you know we are work on forming a LDH task force that will be departments from the center of the county there is a trianing date set for october 12 sunday with towanda n.towanda , wysox , rome , and ulster maybe to go over what we have in total hose loads and equipment does monroeton now have 5" hose on your engine I know you had 4" any question give myself or jim mechling a call. terry ntowanda 1
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Post by BCDISP on Sept 15, 2003 12:37:34 GMT -5
Terry,
I'm glad that the central Area is starting to organize things like a LDH task Force. But you have additional resources just outsid ethe central area that could be used and aren't. Such as Troy station 2 with LDH and Smithfield and the 4500 ft they have. Also we need to start thinking about forming a RIT team in the county. Also what's your ideas of starting a tanker task force like Tim stated?
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Post by chief322 on Sept 15, 2003 13:09:00 GMT -5
I think that having a RIT team on structural alarms is a great idea, however I would like to see the chiefs' association establish a committee to evaluate training requirements, tools and equipment needed and overall effectiveness on a county wide basis. I personally think that a county wide criteria should be established to certify area departmental teams. Each zone so to speak could have a recognized department and a backup department to handle that zone. Should multiple teams be needed, the same recognized departmental team from another zone could come in and assist. Right now there is substantial training on RIT available. However, there are numerous other classes that should be considered such as bldg. construction, collapse rescue, confined space rescue, to name a few.
I think we would have the willpower and commitment in this county to establish multiple teams that could be a real asset to all of us.
Tim
0950 Hrs. - Perfect example tonight in Towanda Boro, if you had a zone RIT crew as compared to a county-wide. By the time a county-wide had arrived, been briefed, and size-up'ed the scene; the incident would have been over. RIT needs to be done almost immediately or ASAP when we put personnel in harms way. We should either do this full bore or not at all, because half-assed just doesn't cut it in this business.
Be good , brothers!
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Post by atpd2 on Oct 5, 2003 14:59:11 GMT -5
I think and LDH Task Force from the central area of the county is a great idea. One reason the Valley LDH Task Force was initiated was to ensure that none of the Departments in the Valley was completely stripped of Engines & 5" hose when mutual aid was requested on a major operation. One of the positive offshoots of this was a closer working relationship between departments and a more standard method of operation between the 5 Valley Depts. If a Central Bradford LDH Task Force was created, that would be a resource the Valley could use in major operations as the Departments up here would already be committed.
Tanker Task Forces would also be a great asset however I wonder if other Task Force specializations (ie rescue, foam) would work as well due to the fact that they probably would not be utilized as much and interest would be lost. Routine training in any type of Task Force Operations would be a must.
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Post by 911wacker on Oct 8, 2003 13:05:59 GMT -5
Another possible thought for specialty rescue - having it spread out so that each department has an area of knowledge that they train and have equipment to handle.
For example- Greater Valley has a dive team, the central 3 departments do water rescue, Ridgebury is handy with ropes, etc, etc. Each department would "specialize" in a certian area of knowledge and be a resource that can be called in. It would be better if two departments on opposite sides of the county had the same specialty so the resources are available in say 30 minutes or so.
Just a thought!!
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Post by nt2 on Oct 8, 2003 14:46:32 GMT -5
something else to keep in mind is structural calapse we had 7 people go to harrisburge for a class from the three central departments a couple of weeks ago With all of the old buildings on any main street in this county we have a real posibility of dealing with one of these. I think this would have to be a county wide Task force because the amount of material needed for a job. I also think you could include trench rescue in this same group. Any thoughts or ideas get in touch with me.
be safe
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Flynn
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Post by Flynn on Nov 13, 2003 15:34:44 GMT -5
As many of you may have heard, Central County has been developing an LDH Task Force, particularly to compliment the original Valley LDH Task Force.
This is a good start to establishing numerous multi-departmental teams throughout the county. As Chief Jass Sheets states, building collapse is an area that we as a whole should be working on. Conversely, what comes down can also go up, hence trench rescue. With all the bldg going on within our county confines, the possibility of a trench rescue increases. I feel with the "Rescue Companies" we have within out little part of the state, we could field a Rescue Task Force that would be second to none.
Think about it!
Tim
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Post by GVEMS11 on Nov 13, 2003 16:42:33 GMT -5
I think the idea of a rescue task force is long overdue. Our individual rescue companies could benefit tremedously through this, both in the additional resources but also through more training opportunities. How many of the rescue companies now know the capabilities and resources of their surrounding companies, should a rescue (other than vehicle) occur. Luzerne County formed a rescue task force of six rescue companies. Nothing terribly complicated or fancy. Included in this is a cascade unit and a collapse trailer. The task force is available anywhere in the county upon request, and is on the assignment should something "go south" at the W-B/Scranton Int'l Airport. Here's a good overview of them, as well as some good informational links: www.avocafiredept.com/trt.htmThe key, though, is continued training and practice.
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Post by Skip18810 on Nov 14, 2003 16:03:41 GMT -5
I think a rescue task force is a good idea. But as with all things, there will be a lot of work to bring it to existance. Last Spring a notice was sent to all fire departments in Bradford County asking for persons interested in the regional rescue task force. There was only one application from Bradford County.
A county task force should be looking for persons who want to g way beyond Basic Vehicle Rescue. I'm hoping you find those folks.
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Post by 911wacker on Nov 17, 2003 20:06:14 GMT -5
Sign me up Skipper - More knowledge is always good, but dangerous in my hands!! ;D
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Post by Greg Jelliff on Jan 5, 2004 10:20:40 GMT -5
This discussion has been around a long time, in fact several departments met at N. Towanda 5+ years ago discussing a rescue task force - some of you were there!
It usually resurfaces after an incident and then dies out.
Being one of those pushing to have that meeting I left disappointed due to the lack of fore-site of others.
Skip - to the best of my knowledge we did not recieve anything about a regional rescue task force, we recieved one about WMD.
I too think it would be valuable to establish one, so when and where can we meet to start working on it?
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