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Jan 22, 2004 16:35:21 GMT -5
Post by 2Truck on Jan 22, 2004 16:35:21 GMT -5
Something that I've noticed while running calls while home is that PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) is usually under used by people on scenes. Whether it be a minor crash or an entrapment call when you look around there are usually people working the car that do not have all of their PPE on (full turnout gear or rescue suit, helmet, safety glasses, and gloves ). Don't we have this equipment to protect ourselves from the hazards that we encounter? Yeah we might look macho walking around with no safety glasses or gloves on but how are we going to look if we are missing an eye or a finger?
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PPE
Jan 22, 2004 20:35:14 GMT -5
Post by NT1 on Jan 22, 2004 20:35:14 GMT -5
Whether it be home or away we all get complacent at one time or another. Safety is up to all of us. If someone does not have the proper PPE doned ask them (tactfully) to put it on or fall back to the cold zone. We always have room for improvment but for the most part I believe we are doing fine.
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Jan 23, 2004 0:57:42 GMT -5
Post by canton1 on Jan 23, 2004 0:57:42 GMT -5
Well, bet WE all know who the biggest abusers are ! The officers, or atleast from what I have seen as fire coordinator. Even in my own department a officer get on scene, gets out to check on the situation and then they get busy with Pt. care or truck placement and it gets put on to late if at all. If we expect our guys to have it on, we need to do it, I am one of our biggest offenders (unless it is really cold ;D ) One of the biggest saves for Canton is that all the members have to go to the station and to be in a truck it must be on.
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Jan 23, 2004 8:25:56 GMT -5
Post by MonroetonTwo on Jan 23, 2004 8:25:56 GMT -5
Just one thing on this one...How many times have you been to a scene and heard the safety officer tell someone to put something that should be on.....Just to have the person walk away grumbling and ignoring him?? Please hold the stones!!
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Jan 31, 2004 12:15:15 GMT -5
Post by 911wacker on Jan 31, 2004 12:15:15 GMT -5
Thank God for saftey officers, if not for them we would forget more often. PPE is a pain in the posterior, however its our ass that we are saving. I'm not going to throw stones because us EMS providers are most likely the largest abusers of the PPE rules. Wrong or right!
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Jan 31, 2004 23:31:58 GMT -5
Post by Valley3 on Jan 31, 2004 23:31:58 GMT -5
Scott you are probably right, but you must admit our helmets do a pretty good job protecting car roofs at an MVC.
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Nov 3, 2004 4:23:07 GMT -5
Post by Everyonesshadows on Nov 3, 2004 4:23:07 GMT -5
PPE is a great thing to have on a MVA. I wish more EMS companies would get newer PPE. Some companies I have noticed have old gear but I have to admit old is better than no PPE at all. If a company is going to provide rescue they should be providing proper equipment for there employees. Lets face it if one of them gets hurt and they are taken to the hospital they will be able to tell if the PPE they have on is proper and if its not then the company can be held liable and we wouldn’t want that now would we.
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Nov 6, 2004 13:21:21 GMT -5
Post by 24wacker1 on Nov 6, 2004 13:21:21 GMT -5
I have found that an easy way to know how many people are in a vehicle when arriving late to a mvc is #of patients + #of helmets on roof = total #of people in vehicle
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Nov 10, 2004 18:06:09 GMT -5
Post by Chris VanDruff on Nov 10, 2004 18:06:09 GMT -5
Its funny this topic comes up that was the point I was trying to make about that whole argument with the medic and fire chief blah blah blah. Was the medic prepared to enter the hot zone to assess the patient or was thier already and EMT in full extrication gear already assessing things ?
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Mar 16, 2005 7:59:59 GMT -5
Post by Medic12 on Mar 16, 2005 7:59:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I am seeing things correctly, but on the front page of the Daily yesterday (3-15) it appears to show a firefighter using a chainsaw to cut a hole in a structure while not wearing a helmet and no eye protection....must be that fabric in the baseball hat is reinforced
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Mar 16, 2005 9:01:31 GMT -5
Post by 9Wacker1 on Mar 16, 2005 9:01:31 GMT -5
Well let's see... you have covering over your head (protection if it's a kevlar ballcap - maybe) and the bill can be lowered to stop anything from getting into your eyes. Right?
Actually, I learned on a fire scene not too long ago, those saws throw thing a lot farther then we think about. I ended up behind a firefighter (he moved and I didn't) and got showered with stuff. Fortunately no damage done, but I did move farther away and out of the line of fire (no pun intended).
I agree that we need to take more time to think about personal safety - thank goodness there is someone assigned to that task for the times we forget, but they can't watch everyone all the time.
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Mar 16, 2005 9:49:09 GMT -5
Post by blueeighty8 on Mar 16, 2005 9:49:09 GMT -5
Just one thing on this one...How many times have you been to a scene and heard the safety officer tell someone to put something that should be on.....Just to have the person walk away grumbling and ignoring him?? Please hold the stones!! I'd eat my glove if I actually seen our SO show up to a call. Usually takes an eye opening event to get the importance of all this gear into someones head. I always wear my extrication goggles b/c I was using the HURST tool during an MVA, some tiny piece of metal broke off, hit my helmet shield at exactly the right place and broke it in half. Had I been there w/ no goggles or shield down, I would prolly have a serious problem. Even with gloves on you could lose a finger, or get it entangled; but who wants those tiny pieces of auto glass stuck in their fingers? Another good excuse.. Padding; door pops open or a blade breaks you have a better chance of not getting a serious injury w/ the sturdy padding. Lacs to the thighs can be nasty, even small ones - your jeans aren't going to help you there. Since we got all new gear, nobody has an excuse for not wearing it. Except the chiefs always have on the T-out coat, helmet and those magic blue jeans that stop everything ;D And even though I don't follow it, goggles on the fire ground aren't a bad idea either. You'll notice if someone is cutting a metal roof with something like a K-80; you have these tiny pieces of metal falling down all around you 40 & 50 feet away, usually directly behind the guy on the roof.
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