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Post by chief322 on Jan 1, 2004 17:11:11 GMT -5
Not only did Company 17 catch one of the first calls of 2004 in the county, they also caught the first job.
Being the scannerwally I am, it sounded very professional (like we would expect anything less).
PSPFIREMARSHALL give us details man! You had the initial, give us details.....
Sounded like good work by all involved!
Tim
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Post by PSPFIREMARSHAL on Jan 1, 2004 21:17:21 GMT -5
Dispatched to a working structure fire at about 0620 am. Seeing it was just a couple places down from my house, I was on scene within a minute of dispatch. upon arrival, a neighbor said the woman was possibly still in the house. Fire was seen in the kitchen area with Firefighter Josh Gardner lives next to the residence and noticed the fire while getting ready for work. Thank God, a little while longer and it probably would have been engulfed. I live just up the road and was there within a minute. Upon arrival, fire in the kitchen area with heavy smoke coming from the second story. second alarm called for. Attack team made entry through front door while search and rescue team entered the second story through window to search for the victim. After some confusion, it was learned that the woman was in the robert packer hospital for medical reasons. Thanks to North Towanda, Athens Township and East Smithfield for the help. Thankfully we had a quick knockdown. We had plenty of manpower which was nice for a change ;D. I think things went pretty smooth with the tense situation we had in the beginning. Fire started in the kitchen ceiling near a light fixture. Bob
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Post by Skip18810 on Jan 2, 2004 12:18:35 GMT -5
I listened to the alarm, and I thought it sounded pretty good, including dispatchers and resonders.
I heard one thing that may have been a problem, but before I continue I need to make sure I have the facts correct. Was the lady in the RPH at the time of the fire?
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Post by PSPFIREMARSHAL on Jan 2, 2004 14:43:45 GMT -5
Skip, The lady was in the hospital at the time of the fire. We had the comm center check with both hospitals and both hospitals said they did not have a patient with that name. it was only after the comm center called the hospitals back and spelled the name of the lady for them, did rph verify that she was indeed a patient there. We even asked the comm center if they could send sayre pd to rph in the beginning to verify it. hope this helps Bob
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Post by Skip18810 on Jan 2, 2004 15:14:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the information Bob,
I heard the dispatcher's conversation about checking with the hospitals early in the call ( a very good job on their part). I found it disturbing that firefighters were put into more danger than usual because someone at the hospitals could not, or would not provide the correct information. We don't need folks making this job more difficult.
Skip
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Post by Greg Jelliff on Jan 3, 2004 17:22:49 GMT -5
While I couldn't agree more with you Skip, under Federal Law (HIPPA) hospitals can not give out information about anyone. I listened to the incident on my way to work, and also think the dispatchers did a great job. This Law is another example of our Government taking things a bit to far!
Greg
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Post by canton1 on Jan 4, 2004 1:10:21 GMT -5
yep, Another thing that the law has that is/may kill one of ours someday. It is the same as if someone has a communicable disease. WHat a bunch of CRAP. there needs to be something to protect us.
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Post by NT1 on Jan 4, 2004 12:13:43 GMT -5
There are rules and regulations to protect just about everyone. That is fine. Most of them have a clause. If the subject regulation endangers the welfare of others it will be given exception. I believe this is one case that could have been given exception. Safety is number one. We are trained to protect ourselves and others. There needs to be a media to transfer infrmation to the fire/ems service. Another example, There are officials that are aware of locations of suspected meth labs. I believe the fire service should also be aware of these. Again our safety should be number one.
Proactive not reactive!
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Post by diesel23 on Jan 23, 2004 5:00:20 GMT -5
This is my first post, so I'll make it a good one. I was one of the dispatchers that worked this fire. I must clarify the deal with the possible entrapment. The initial caller said that they were not sure if the female who lived in the house was still in the hospital or not. We took the initive to contact both the RPH and TMH to see if she was a patient at either facility. WE had the incorrect spelling of her last name. It wasn't that the hospitals were unable or unwilling to assist us. The problem that we ran into was her last name. I know that alot of people are upset over the new HIPAA law and think that you can't get any information. Well, in some cases, no Joe Blow can't. If it is justifiable and legitimate, then there are areas that can be accessed. When it comes right down to it, the law is to protect patients privacy so that insurance companies can not share information to pre-judge candidates. There are several different reasons, but that is one of the big ones. I hope that this rests everyones weary minds over this. I want to commend the fire and ems units on scene that froze their butts off trying to make sure that this wasn't another Bradford County tragedy. We need to make sure that positive reinforcements are given to each and every person that puts their lives on the line for everyone else. THANK YOU!!! ;D
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Post by canton1 on Jan 23, 2004 5:10:56 GMT -5
Well Diesel--You know I cant leave anything alone on this board ;D "I know that alot of people are upset over the new HIPAA law and think that you can't get any information. Well, in some cases, no Joe Blow can't. If it is justifiable and legitimate, then there are areas that can be accessed. When it comes right down to it, the law is to protect patients privacy" Who cares about thier rights when it comes to LIFE SAFETY................. To me it has nothing to do with HIPPA If this does become a issue I think we need to address it on a FIRE level to the STATE---we can give it to Diesel---SHE IS HIPPA GOD
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Post by Matt Russell on Jan 23, 2004 10:59:34 GMT -5
Posted by: canton1 on 01/23/04 at 05:10:56 "If this does become a issue I think we need to address it on a FIRE level to the STATE" Chief, I think you need to go back to HIPAA training! ;D ;D HIPAA is not a State mandated issue it is, and I will spell this to you slowly F E D E R A L. OK! and Diesel IS NOT the HIPAA GOD! She IS the HIPAA GODESS! you bone head. Love ya Brother! ;D ;D
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Post by canton1 on Jan 28, 2004 0:11:19 GMT -5
Well, Matt who really cares how to spell it. I was getting that if it got to be a life safety issue maybe we could get the Fire Commissioner involved.
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