Flynn
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Post by Flynn on Sept 22, 2003 21:26:11 GMT -5
I have no clue what the policy/procedure is for echoing the on-scene report is; however if a detailed one is given and it has a lot of information, is this re-communicated?
For arguments sake say this is the statement:
County, Chief 10's on scene, establishing command 10 side 1 w/ 2.5 story occupied frame; heavy fire showing floor one.
Would this be echoed as "Chief 10 on scene; heavy fire showing"?
This statement gives us information that command has been established, who has it, its location (CP), whether a 16' or 35' ladder is needed, whether a supply line should be established immediately, what type of collapse is possible, fire load, fire spread, first in company's priority. Should this information not be communicated to firest in units.
Echoing is a tough call, however I think that if we are going to do it; we be thorough with both our echo and our scene reports. The dispatchers can only echo the info they receive, and conversely the field units can only prepare based on radio traffic given.
Anyone's thoughts?
Tim
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Larry
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Post by Larry on Sept 23, 2003 10:53:18 GMT -5
Tim, my opinion only, echoing by a dispatcher is not needed with a repeater radio system, it's a waste of air time on the radio! If you are using a potable on a symplex system then maybe the EOC should repeat the message.
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Flynn
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Post by Flynn on Sept 23, 2003 20:31:01 GMT -5
Good call there Chief; to be honest I hadn't even thought of that, and you are right.
Maybe I titled this wrong or went off on the wrong train of thought. I really question who and what we echo.
On a multi-department response, which is more important for you to hear and acknowleged, a car unit, a mutual aid chief, or apparatus (yours or theirs). I personally could care less if I hear anything but apparatus being echo'd. I personally think that we should be echoing the local officers, FP's, car units and all apparatus on the "host" department calls.
For arguements sake, lets say 3 Command request Tanker 7 on a special off the first. Do you really want to hear or have echoed that Monroeton 8 is responding. But I can bet you'd be more interested that Smithfield 8 was.
I don't know what is documented during responses with the county, however I would be willing to bet that echo'd units are. Look an CFS report over once.
This is by no means a bust on any of our personnel in the communications center or a slam at the chiefs' association. Radio traffic is a problem no matter what county we are in, so we are not alone on this one.
Be safe, brother!
Tim
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Post by Brian Barnes on Dec 3, 2003 13:31:35 GMT -5
Can somone explain why car units need to be echoed at all? Quite honestly, unless you are passing the scened... you should be going to the station to get the apparatus out! I can see radios if you are a car unit and the first on scene and have some sort of emergency traffic, otherwise, what does it matter? Same goes with fire police, is their traffic necessary? I have opinions, but could be swayed by a good argument....
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Post by canton1 on Dec 4, 2003 0:34:20 GMT -5
WEll Brian DUDE, I have to say hi. I havent heard from you in a long time. And by the lloks of the reply you still got your head on right I have been saying that for a long long time!!
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Post by Brian Barnes on Dec 4, 2003 8:22:17 GMT -5
Sadly, a "car unit" can be any blue lighter with a radio in his/her vehicle.
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