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Post by 911wacker on Feb 13, 2004 21:48:11 GMT -5
I agree that once a legal crew has been acknowledged on the radio and someone has been designated as being responsible for rolling the rig that everyone else should just "shut up." .............AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!! ;D Now that I have gotten that out of my system, It's pretty evident that 90% of us agree on the same issue. That issue being once a legal crew has been acknowledged, the need for MOST radio traffic is gone. So now the question is how do we get Captains and Managers to enforce these "guidelines" ?
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Post by GVEMS11 on Feb 23, 2004 21:10:00 GMT -5
Just wondered how things in the radio world have been progressing. I read the information about the letter being in progress for the EMS world too. Are there any generalities from it that can be posted here, where are things headed for radio usage? Also, since this is a chatter topic, are there currently any "roadshows" planned for those of us on the EMS side, or are they on an as-requested basis?
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Post by 911guy on Feb 24, 2004 21:53:22 GMT -5
Well, all the fire chiefs should have gotten their letter by now. I have had NO feedback since I sent them....
As far as EMS, what I am looking at is.......unless you have VITAL (as defined in SOPs) information, BE QUIET! One thing that, unfortunately, I have little control over is when people suck up air time to decide who is going where;
"Blank Tech 1, this is Blank FR 2"
"Go ahead FR 2, this is Tech 1"
"Yeah, do you know where this call is?"
"Its on Screwball Road, about a mile up, right?"
"You know, the place we were two weeks ago, out by Uncle Harry's place."
"Oh, yeah, isn't that up Screwball Road?"
"Yes, that's it. Its about - oh a mile or so."
"Alright. Are you going to the scene or to the garage?" "
"Well, I was going to go to the garage. What's your location?"
"I'm about 3 minutes from the garage."
"Oh, OK. Well, why don't I divert directly to the scene and you bring the ambulance?"
"OK. I'll be there in about 3 minutes to get the ambulance."
"Alright, I'll meet you on scene."
"10-4"
While this is a hypothetical conversation, some just like it are ALL TOO COMMON! IF I had some control over it, I would tell everyone to just GO TO THE GARAGE unless it is an echo response and you are going PAST the scene and have SPECIFIC equipment/certification to begin BLS care!
We do NOT acknowledge ANY ONE PERSON responding/on-scene once the ambulance has a full crew and has responded. As in my earlier post, we don't CARE if your ambulance is standing by awaiting crew. What difference does that make???
At any rate, that is what I am looking at - just GO and don't YACK about going!
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Post by Chris VanDruff on Feb 26, 2004 21:16:40 GMT -5
So maybe Im misunderstanding you at the comm center dont want to know who is responding unless they are going as __ A __ ? ok sounds fine to me however I think if 9 fr 3 is going to the scene 9t3 would like to know who they have responding . Unfortunately in this area we never know who we are going to get. I totally agree there is way to much BS on the radio Yes EMS is a huge culprit I hope we can all work together to fix it Im glad to see you are going to work on the same letter for EMS. Thanks.
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Post by GVEMS30 on Jan 5, 2005 9:12:54 GMT -5
I posted this on another thread, but I feel it belongs here as well. Priority Traffic on January 5, 2005. Bradford County: (following a dispatch) “Priority traffic only, emergency dispatch to follow.” XX Unit X: XX Unit X responding to (interrupted by alert tones) Is this Priority Traffic? Should anyone try talking over dispatch?
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Post by GVEMS30 on Jan 5, 2005 15:18:32 GMT -5
According to FCC Rules the licensee (EOC?) is in control and licensee is the only authority who can authorize users. Tell them to get off the 911-owned frequency and get their own if they want to hear each other talking! Or better yet, they could get their very own FRS or CB radios. Maybe even get a amateur radio license, then they could chat all they want with out bothering the rest of the county. Instead of keep on telling them, fine the department for each misuse. Keep making the fine more expensive. True, someone needs to be held accountable, but fines would be unenforceable. FCC would be the only ones who could issue a legal fine. It boils down to common sense and good judgment, two things that can’t be taught.
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Post by Chris VanDruff on Jan 6, 2005 14:09:23 GMT -5
I have asked that priority traffic question before. people just dont have a freakin clue. Here is another good one how about a line officer driving a piece of equipment and still responding as the officer....ie... xx6 and xx rescue1 responding... WHY because he is important and wants everyone to know he finally made a call cause he happened to be at the hall for the first time in 3 months. Im not sure how its gonna get fixed im sure nobody pulled this young LT aside and said lets try it this way.
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Post by GVEMS30 on Jan 6, 2005 21:32:45 GMT -5
That would be the uncommon common sense and the not to good good judgment.
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Post by canton1 on Jan 7, 2005 2:04:21 GMT -5
This PLACE (the 911 Center) needs to call the CHIEF of that department when it happens each and everytime.
I know if someone yells at me, I PASS THE BUCK
AS I HAVE SAID 100 TIMES, IT IS UP TO THE CHIEF TO CONTROL IT.
Some departments hold a license to operate on the same channels so it is not all about liscencing.
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Post by 911wacker on Jan 7, 2005 7:46:17 GMT -5
AS I HAVE SAID 100 TIMES, IT IS UP TO THE CHIEF TO CONTROL IT. How true, but not everyone gets it! And you will still have to say it 100 more at this rate!!
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Post by 9Wacker1 on Jan 20, 2005 9:58:34 GMT -5
Chris and I have gone around on this one and it's good to hear that others have the same frustrations. If one pebble can start a rockslide, then we're on a roll, but in my opinion, it means more MANDATORY radio procedure training. I have my FCC Amateur Radio License (general class) and have learned how to ragchew but also how to be short and sweet during disaster training drills.
Most times I think we just like to hear the sound of our own voice. With education and enforcement by the line officers, I would think we could improve this. Maybe...
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Post by canton1 on Jan 21, 2005 0:23:02 GMT -5
So, Can we start setting up regular scheduled trainings and the agencies start making them MANDATORY to attend? I know for one that has done them, I would be willing to do them at anytime that is good for the members so that we can get everyone covered.
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