cledus
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Post by cledus on Feb 1, 2005 16:39:40 GMT -5
well high people, lets start with 9 tech 1 if it is your department then why o why don't you do somthing other than tell your friends how backwords they are. also if I was in your department I would not vote in a leader that did not stand up for his own people, just a thought. Obvicely the leader ship is not effective so it might be time for a change. Then Greg there is a fine line between bravery and stupidity, and I am afraid that you addmited to crossing it. If you did not feal scared you need to turn in your pager and get out of the bussness, fear is what keeps you sharp and it can keep you alive. You are obvicely fearless, so you can lead yourself (a loss) and others to there deaths (a great loss) I can not even think of what crossed your mind.
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Post by Chris VanDruff on Feb 1, 2005 18:04:42 GMT -5
Cledus hold on pal first let me say that Gregg is one of the finest leaders and most knowledgable responders in this area yes the whole area. I have the highest respect for Gregg he may have screwed up but we all do. I work with these responders almost daily some of them are nieve but oh well I willdo my part to change there thinking. Ridgebury EMS is going to host a class in the spring Street survival for the emergency provider I highly recommend everybody put thier personal feelings aside and attend. These responders in Ridgebury are not the greatest Super provider but they are the one as are all of you who get up at 0 dark 30 and do what they do cause nobody else will. Bashing is trully unnecessary. I said early on I expected some bashing but I also stated lets keep it constructive some have crossed that line you know who you are some have let there personal feeling show on a scene since then I wasnt there so I will refrain from here say but please dont judge MY people by a mistake that they have trully put forth teh effort too try and change. I respect most all of you on this board each has his knowledge lets continue to share the knowledge. I do not condone of the thoughts that have been posted here including those posted by my own people. I will continue to do what I do to make a difference. I will continue to try and educate and change some opinions. If you cant keep it constructive dont post anymore bottom line.Thank you all for your concern we are working to make it better. iIm done I think im rambling. Oh and for those in other areas who think they wouldnt like to work with us. Your loss Bradford County has some really great people and I dont have enough knowledge to start limiting myself with ignorant arrogant feelings. hope you could change your mind some day would love to meet you.
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cledus
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Post by cledus on Feb 1, 2005 18:46:40 GMT -5
I know Gregg, I have attended classes he has taught. Perhaps I should have spaced out my response better, I was smacking but as I read what I wrote about Gregg it was not what I was attempting to say. Gregg is a great leader this is true and when the best of us make a mistake it is more shocking. I like Gregg and hope he takes what I wrote as a hard jest and not a personal attack. So Gregg I AM SORRY FOR MY AFOR MENTIONED SLIGHT. PLEASE ACCEPT MY APPOLAGY. I will be reading my messages befor I post to be sure that I do not make a misstake like this again.
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Post by 911wacker on Feb 1, 2005 19:02:01 GMT -5
............"Gregg is one of the finest leaders and most knowledgable responders in this area"............... ..............."Oh and for those in other areas who think they wouldnt like to work with us. Your loss Bradford County has some really great people"............. Chris, You hit the nail on the head with both of those quotes above. Cledus and I have bonded and he does truely regret his post, IT WON"T happen agian. I think that this topic has reached it's "potential" and we should just let it drift off into the world of dead threads. Some good points have been made and the people who were involved are really feeling pretty crappy, so lets leave them alone and find something else to talk about for awhile.
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9Wacker1
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Post by 9Wacker1 on Feb 2, 2005 9:50:57 GMT -5
Great Idea! Catch everybody on the next thread! ;D
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Post by valleytech36 on Feb 7, 2005 4:23:31 GMT -5
This was in the Morning Times on 1/5/2005:
RIDGEBURY TOWNSHIP Absence of local police force, impact on emergency response time cause for concern By WARREN HOWELER Times Reporter RIDGEBURY - The lack of a local police officer within Ridgebury Township has put the members of the township division of the Tri-Township Ambulance Association in a “rather difficult situation as far as some of the responses to certain calls,” according to Senior Division Captain Mike Drake. Drake commented on the current police situation during this week’s meeting of the Ridgebury Township Supervisors. The township has been without a local police officer since long-time Police Chief Marty Rinebold retired at the end of November after 27 years with the department. The township’s police services are currently provided by troopers from the Pennsylvania State Police barracks in North Towanda. “We’ve got a policy where we are supposed to have police coverage if it is anything that is unknown or a domestic or unsafe scene,” Drake said. “We’ve had few problems adjusting to that right now, I’ll be honest with you.” From the standpoint of having adequate response time from the state police, Drake said if the ambulance crews are waiting for the state troopers to respond to a scene, “it is not a good situation.” “We right now are looking at adopting a change to our response policy because we don’t have a local police officer, which is going to impede our ability to response to some emergencies,” he said. “We’re going to have to wait for state police out of Towanda - we’ve seen it up to an hour (before they respond). If somebody is in real dire need, it could have a real impact.” When a community has a local police officer, that officer is constantly handling some issues “that don’t go any farther than that,” Drake said. “Now we’re seeing some instances where we’re getting in some more serious problems because that police officer is now longer there to try to diffuse situations like Marty did,” Drake said. “My concern us we’re going to run into something even worse. If we see this trend continuing like this, it is a sad situation for everybody.” Drake said he knows the supervisors are working in this situation. “I guess what I would ask is that if you can be expedient,” he said. “At least for that side of it, we really need a police officer back in this community.” The supervisors are currently working with a police peer consultant from the Pennsylvania Department of Community and Economic Development on this issue, and will soon be attending training to understand how to go about hiring and maintaining a local police force.
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Post by Phoenix9369 on Feb 12, 2005 15:32:03 GMT -5
Okay, folks.. Ridgebury Township is a busy township, but I've got to educate some of you on a thing we like to refer to as reality:
I was working the night of Superbowl Sunday, and BCR reported that there were three patients in Ridgebury (one reportedly "covered in blood."). EMS on scene requested that we (PSP) expedite to their location or to get a nearer agency to respond. Our desk officer determined via BCR that it was not an actively occurring incident and that the injuries had been sustained at a different location.
Tpr. Slacktish was in Monroeton at the time he was assigned to respond, and he was advised that it was not an active assault. At some point that evening, we received a telephone call from a member of the media, who advised that he heard on the scanner that one of the patients was being transported with a gunshot wound. That was not the case, as I spoke via telephone with Tpr. Slacktish at the scene.
This is a large county, and I'm not going flying to a non-active incident with lights and siren activated, because I won't needlessly expose myself or the motoring public to danger.
As for the suggestion that another closer agency be summoned, that could be plausible in the event of an active emergency. Separated parties who are being medically attended does not warrant an emergency law enforcement response.
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Post by 911wacker on Feb 12, 2005 16:24:44 GMT -5
I have chosen to lock this topic, not that there isn't more we could discuss.
No sense adding insult to already injured, let us move on to more productive discusions!!
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