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Post by blueeighty8 on May 15, 2006 8:32:50 GMT -5
Not authorized to comment on this matter. Opinion deleted.
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Post by Rev. Percy L. Frazier 22-FP-30 on May 16, 2006 6:36:54 GMT -5
Precisely my point, Chris. Such behaviour not only causes traffic congestion, it costs lives. The words "22-FP-30 responding" don't do a great deal of good when I don't have anything in my POV to assist at the scene. This is one of the things that angers me about the illegal production of methamphetamines. I was told a few days ago that I am no longer permitted to ask for road flares at the State Police Barracks to carry in my POV or my gear bag. As a result of unscupulous individuals producing meth, I can't carry the things in my POV or my gear bag to assist me in doing my job on scene when I'm faced with the selfsame circumstances that you were. It used to be that people that were bubbling were hurting themselves, and I didn't much give a rip. If they wanted to fry their brains in a quest for the higher high, then that was THEIR problem. Now they have succeeded in endangering the lives of countless people that they'll never meet in addition to endangering the lives of the emergengy service personnel, fire, EMS, and law enforcement alike, that I call family. NOW IT'S PERSONAL! I may not be able to do anything about the people that respond to runs ill-equipped, ill prepared, and in abscence of the proper apparatus, but I CAN do something to curb the production of the substances that cause ME and those in my unit to arrive on scene ill-prepared. Perhaps in that, those in power will see fit to allow me to again carry the equipment in my POV to control traffic around the scene.
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24wacker1
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Post by 24wacker1 on May 16, 2006 19:20:16 GMT -5
im just curious then if you don't like the radio traffic and want to know who's coming then what is your protocol for how many minutes you must wait before the truck rolls?? Our protocol is that the truck doesn't roll without at least three on board. If you can't crew three people together for an engine, then mutual aid is called. On most calls, if we can crew three people together before the siren stops then the truck rolls. On mutual aid calls, we will hold the truck a minute or two longer to try and fill the truck(which is 6 people). For a cover-up assignment, we will hold the truck a minute or two longer than that. Keeping in mind that if our personel respond to the scene, then they had better have a damn good reason for it, because the engine is waiting. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes or badmouth the decisions of any other chief, I just think that if every department strictly enforces response to the station and radio response then the "big cluster" may be a little easier to prevent.
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Post by Rev. Percy L. Frazier 22-FP-30 on May 17, 2006 5:35:59 GMT -5
Well met, Bill! That's the kind of SOP I think we need. Yeah, go ahead and respond to the scene as long as the apparatus is manned and rolling. I didn't mean to sound like you didn't know what you were talking about earlier in this thread. I thought that your instruction of our EVOC class was outstanding, and I know that you know your stuff, I just think that it's ultimately the Chief's decision as to who does what.
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Post by Capt.52 on May 18, 2006 13:11:22 GMT -5
I know in Muncy Valley if you do not drive by the scene you must go to the station,and if you are an officer (besides the chief) and have to drive by the staion to get to the call you must go there instead of the scene. And as far as people responding it all depends on the type of call, fires I want to here the fire officers responding. MVA I want to here fire police and EMTS responding so we know that we can get our trucks out and know that traffic will be taken care of. My opion of county distpatching every single truck on every call, no they have enough to worry about. I personally think your department as a hole should know what goes where and when.
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